Targeted state field notes

Here's a list of the top-targeted battleground states that each of the campaigns is going after from the other side of 2004, with field & staff investments:

McCain: total 99 EV's

Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon and Washington.

Obama: total 116 EV's

Iowa, New Mexico, Ohio, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Georgia and Alaska.

Thus far, McCain is prioritizing 9 of the 14 of the states which Obama is going after, but not Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Georgia, and Alaska. His campaign believes that Obama cannot win those states.

For Obama, he's just prioritizing 4 of the 9 states which McCain is going after, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. His campaign believes that these are the only states in which McCain could win.

There's a huge (about 3:1) disparity going on in terms of the actual dollar amount of the resources that are being put into these states by each of the campaigns.

For McCain too, NJ, OR and WA have not been airing his ads. McCain really has only 2 regions of attacking, the upper NE, which includes NH & ME, and the midwest, which includes PA, MI, WI, and MN. And, when we consider Obama's tactics, it gets whittled down to MI, PA, WI, and NH.

One of the thing to watch for is whether Obama starts airing ads in any other blue states, other than MI, PA, WI and NH. Or, conversely, whether McCain starts airing ads in IN, ND, MT, GA, and AK.



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Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

Good tabulation. And good to see McCain so cornered.

I'm not so sure about Montana being that hopeless. Evidence is just anecdotal, but I was there last week, and I saw an awful lot of Obama bnumper stickers on cars with MT plates (saw no McCain bumper stickers there, but then again, I haven't seen one anywhere). I talked to a lot of people who were very open to Obama, even if still undecided.


by iohs2008 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:11:26 AM EST

Re: Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

Well, is it hopeless or pointless?  It would be hard to come up with a scenario in which MT gets Obama to or just over 269.


by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:19:44 AM EST
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Re: Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

Well - I agree, it's probably pointless in strict EC terms... If Obama flips MT, then he probably wins comfortably and is all but the presumptive winner before election night crosses the Mississippi.

Obviously, I don't want to get ahead of myself - but winning a state like MT would be huge psychologically.  Given MT's Dem governor, two Dem Senators -- and a Presidential win in a binary race (that's not a swipe at Bill Clinton, but let's face - he won MT because it was a 3 way race out west) -- this would pretty much force the media to stop considering the mountain and western area of the country as 'GOP territory', which then trickles into ending the silly narrative about the 'rugged, independent' allure of the GOP.  It also, of course, helps build a "mandate" narrative.


by zonk on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:23:52 AM EST
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Re: Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

Montana+Alaska+North and South Dakota = 12 electoral votes. That's more than Missouri. And those states are very cheap to compete in.


by Angry White Democrat on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 01:08:11 PM EST
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Re: Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

Where are the McCain bumper stickers/yard signs?
I was in Southern WI, Iowa, Illinois and saw the same thing.

The enthusiasm gap is huge...


by gil44 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:21:28 AM EST
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Re: Obama and Dems on the offense (none / 0)

This might only be partially true.

Bumper stickers and signs are now almost exclusively the province of purchases by campaign supporters.  Would you log in to a website to purchase a $2 bumper sticker and pay to have it shipped to you?

What about a yard sign at $8 where shipping costs more than the sign, putting it at about $20 total?

Campaign offices don't stock these things anymore because they a) are expensive to produce and hold and b) don't move votes.

So if there's not a McCain office (or here in Wisconsin, "Victory Center") near you, you don't have any way at anything like this - and even if you do, you're still probably screwed if you want a sticker or sign.  


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by Peter from WI on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:54:14 PM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

In what recent election has Oregon not ben in play?


by Thaddeus on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:15:05 AM EST

Maybe the same one in which (none / 0)

AK, ND, and VA were in play.


by Geekesque on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:39:13 AM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

Nate Silver pointed out that McCain doesn't even have an Indiana Field office.
If Even Bayh is the VP that state could really start to swing and force McCain to start playing defense.  
Do ads on MI TV go into Indiana?

McCain is already trying defending places like Virginia & North Carolina.  If those polls stay close, that could be a huge drain on McCain.
I wish Obama would not be on vacation now in Haiwii.  That is stupid, stupid STUPID.  Can't that wait until Nov 5th?  We don't need to see pictures of him frolicking on sun dappled beaches right now.
I would rather him be in North Carolina and Virginia for about 1 month hitting every local outlet than going to MI.


by gil44 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:18:50 AM EST

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Are you that clueless?  The only reason he is going on vacation is that the Olympics are going on.  And he's only taking a week.  It's his last break before the election.  I suppose you are not aware that McSame only does one or maybe two appearances a day, tops.  And McSame doesn't work weekends.  Give Obama a break already, geez!!


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:46:19 AM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

Increasingly, I'm hearing that OR, WA, and NJ are pretty much being written off (as you allude).  I think the GOP has started to realize that contesting them would be a waste (sucks for us, I guess... would have preferred to see McCain and the GOP waste resources).

In OR, Gordon Smith is actually running a campaign that embraces Obama!

As to the rest?

Well, I think WI is a fool's errand for McCain - and while MI seems like a Great Lakes outlier at the moment, I think that's really a lingering function of it not getting any face time during the primary.  I think Obama also gets hurt, ironically, by MI's blue state level government -- I suspect he'll have a tougher time running as the 'opposition' candidate there.  I just hope whatever machine/infrastructure the Dem controlled state provides can overcome that.

In fact, I think one aspect of Obama's campaign/strength that has been overlooked, and really, not emphasized to the degree that I would, is Obama's midwestern geography.  I think it's clear that he's getting bumps in MO, IA, IN, and WI because of the proximity to Illinois, but I'm just not seeing the campaign focusing much attention on this.  

Perhaps that's because the campaign truly DOES want to run a 50 state strategy and expand the map -- and employing any sort of regional focus contradicts that, but I really do believe that Obama could seal this election by hitting the midwest with a full bore "I'm one of you" message.   If he were to do this, I think he can flip MO and IN, and make OH less of a contest -- though, like PA, OH is really several states wrapped in one.

It's been one heck of a long time since the Midwest had a player in the Presidential race (Adlai Stevenson?) -- and I think provincialism would really play well here... but perhaps doing so hurts Obama in the mid-atlantic and western states he's targeting.


by zonk on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:19:55 AM EST

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I agree, I just wish that we could lock up Colorado, Virginia, or Ohio at this early stage.  McCain seems to be in Ohio almost every day, and a win in any of those states would be enough for victory.


by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:28:54 AM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (2.00 / 1)

Unfortunately, I don't see OH, VA, or CO ever being "locked up"... I suspect we'll be contesting them all cycle.   I'm hoping/thinking that door swings both ways, though -- all 3 are 2000/2004 red states, so it's certainly better for us that they stay toss-up at minimum.

Resources permitting, I'd like to put PA to bed -- just as winning VA likely means we'll win by a large margin, losing PA probably means we get swamped by a pretty good margin.   Fortunately - the numbers look much better for a VA win than they do a PA loss.

I'd really like to put PA away by fall - the only card McCain could realistically play there (Tom Ridge) isn't one he can afford because of Ridge's pro-choice leanings.


by zonk on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:58:45 AM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

Mondale was from MN, but that's not really a rust belt state, and more like ND than MI.


by Jerome Armstrong on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:45:01 AM EST
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Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

Sure -

I suppose you can slice and dice regions a myriad of ways... Mondale did win MN :-)


by zonk on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:53:58 AM EST
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It's hard to lock up an enemy (none / 0)

stronghold this early out.

VA is a much tougher deal to close than, say, Iowa.


by Geekesque on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:41:04 AM EST

Georgia (none / 0)

A good thing about Obama running ads in Georgia is to help out Jim Martin.  I have a feeling that if the Senate race starts to show itself to be somewhat close (within 8 points or so) McCain and the GOP will start to spend money here.

It really would just be the Atlanta market since over 50% of the state lives in the Atlanta TV market, but there has to be some worry about the purpling of the suburbs.


by gavoter on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:43:28 AM EST

Pennsylvania (none / 0)

McCain still thinks he can win the state--hence his two days there next week.

If Obama loses PA, he's lost the election by 4-5%.


by esconded on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:23:35 PM EST

Re: Targeted state field notes (none / 0)

The real issue is not how well Obama or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn't have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of their electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds have concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. In 2004 two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has passed 21 state legislative chambers, including one house in Arkansas, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and both houses in California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These four states possess 50 electoral votes -- 19% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.

See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com  
susan


by mvymvy on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 02:21:31 PM EST


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